Eternity-Section 1


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The Crawler landed in front of a very majestic portal this time..Gateway is the greatest and most fancy things you would see..Until the gate opened slowly and men who seem important took us inside.. We used in the previous worlds that we enter the gates .. This time, there are those who come out of the gate to take us .. The doors of The Crawler were opened as the men took our hands, giving each one of us some weird but luxary clothes, we walked until we saw ourselves in front of a huge decorated door .. wait..don't you hear that noise inside? As if the voices are speaking loudly .. The luxurious gate has opened to see what is happening inside .. And really this was the most amazing sight we could see ever..

What was inside was not palace as we thought it would be. The first thing our eyes saw was a large crowd of people .. In a huge hall .. They sit on seats in a like-amphithaetre layout .. And in the middle of the hall there is something like a platform.

Here and there each of them speaks with his colleague with great enthusiasm .. which made the auditorium sound very loud .. until the hall door opened and gaurds silenced them all.

You and I were surprised that we could not hide our surprise from this scene .. Until the guards around us began to point to us to move forward .. We started walking slowly .. O these clothes we wear gives the person a sense of prestige especially when you walk wearing it in a silent crowd looking at you in respect ... We walked at slow steps and began to curiously look at the people sitting as we walked .. Here our eyes widened .. What we were looking at now was the thing that makes this scene the most amazing in the whole world.

At first glance, a number of faces seemed somewhat familiar to us .. Then, once we found out who they are, we looked at the rest of the faces..You can recognize Einstein with his distinguished hair sitting there .. and Voltaire is sitting there .. Darwin with his beard sitting there .. You can see Newton here ... and Rutherford there ... and Aristotle up there ... Avicenna and Ibn Rushd sit next to him ..then there is Galileo ... Where are we exactly?What is this world and what exactly did we stumbled upon? The guards indicated to us to move forward, so I went ahead and I no longer see where I am stepping ...We were advancing to the end of the hall where there are two chairs and gaurds indicated us to sit... I don't know where we are? But it is clear that we will participate in a great event conveyed to us by this world .. The minds that you saw sitting here can shake the flanks of this entire palace .. How can they be gathered together by one hall? what will we do with this crowd .. and why?

Each of us sat on their chair .. We looked at the crowd sitting .. Then I paid attention to the platform in the middle of the hall .. the strange thing was in these things that move over the platform .. red things move in the air in a cinematic way to form a certain symbol .. then they move to separate from each other .. then they meet again to form that symbol again in a continuous movement similar to the way the logos are displayed in 3D At the beginning of the movies, the difference was that this was not happening on a screen ... it was happening in the air.

What we are seeing in front of us, according to my understanding, is a hologram .. it is a technique that shows recorded films but in the air without the need for a screen .. so you see things embodied as if they were part of your real world.

The large hall door from which we entered it the first time opened again, and strong men entered from it and they were carrying with them a strange thing that they placed inside a net... and this thing moves from all its places .. We agreed not to be surprised and try to focus on the meanings ... One of the men who appeared distinctive than the others told us:

Sirs, they brought the whims of people to you.

I did not understand very well what this man wanted to say, so I indicated to him to explain..so he approached me and said: We have collected, the whims of the attendants and put it in this container ... so that we can completely distance it from our discussion .. This is a discussion of minds searching for the truth .. The truth alone .. That is why we gathered passions and whimps to keep it away from our scene.

I began to understand a little bit about what we're going on here. I told the man: so..take it and burn it outside the building.

he pointed to the rest of men and they moved quickly and took that strange thing outside the hall ...I did not know that the whims of the men would look like this..

after i chatted a bit more with the man,i came to conclusion..do you know why all these minds meet? You knew that there were scientists, philosophers, and theologists among them ... all of these are here in order to answer the difficult questions whose answers posed a great challenge to human throughout history .. a challenge where the greatest philosophers and the largest experimental scientists and religious scholars/theologists meet .. How did the universe begin? Has anyone created it? Have we created anyone? Where did we come from? How did we come? Where will we go when we die? And why are we here? Who is god? Is he really existing? Where is he exactly? Who created God? And other existential questions ... and we are here to reach a solution for them.

Ask me, what are the benefits for you and me here? We are the ones who will judge these discussions and extract the correct final opinion from all of this .. In what capacity? As the people .. We represent the common people .. they put us as a judge here among all these scholars .. This is not strange, because all of these scholars were originally in their time to guide and direct humanity to what they see the right .. Therefore, our passions and whims were removed along with the whims of people and burned there and we only have our minds left ... that is, we now have become unbiased to any religion or theory or ideology .. Rather, we have become completely neutral .. and we expect each of the parties to convince us of his opinion .. Now let's watch. Someone is stepping from the platform.

That man who came up from the platform is the same man that I chatted with a little while ago .. It seems that he is something important here .. as if he is the one who is supervising and organizing this meeting .. The man stood beside the platfrom and spoke in a calm and clear voice to everyone:

Hello everyone in this historic meeting ... which we must get out today with a result that confirms the answer to many of the questions that confused us for long ..

That is why we gathered all the parties together ... so that they could see each other's ideas directly without a mediator ... and we got rid of their whims so that there would not be any bias from one of them to a certain idea ... only the mind drives them and nothing but the mind ... and allow me to introduce you  to the way this historic meeting will be organized by .. At first I tell you that my name is "Adam" .. and I am the organizer of this meeting.

The red holographic symbol above the platform was slowly revolving around itself, giving a wonderful technological glimpse into this wondrous atmosphere .. We noticed that the door had opened a little and a man entered.. I narrowed my eyes as soon as I saw him .. He was a man with Gorgeous clothes .. Tall, handsome, with a medium brown beard and long ,shoulder-length brown hair.. Wearing a dark brown robe.

Adam pointed to the entering man and said:

Let me introduce you to the one who will represent religion in our discussion .. His name is "the blessed".

It looks like a nickname/alias more than a name .. But the man really has a strong presence .. I don’t know where I saw him before .. The Blessed entered and stood on one side of the hall .. While Adam headed towards the platform on which the red symbol disappeared and began to appear It has other pictures that support and explain the words "Adam" is speaking .. I will leave it to your imagination at one time and I will explain some of it at another time. "Adam" said:

In the beginning, we have to define the rules applicable in this discussion .. Because, as you know, it is an important and difficult debate and needs strict rules .. In our discussion there is philosophical talk .. There is scientific talk .. There is religious talk ..
 * First:regarding philosophical theories .. We will accept them all without an exception .. it is a mental philosophy and there is nothing against it .. *Second:as for science, we will differentiate in accepting the words of science between hypothesis', theories and scientific facts .. We in this discussion never accept scientific hypotheses .. We only accept recognized scientific theories .. And we naturally accept the scientific facts ..and as a very simplified explanation of the topic for our friends who lived in ancient times before those terms were made .. For science, for example, when a scientist sees that things always fall from top to bottom .. hypotheses are suggestions .. why things fall ... maybe they fell because of (a certain reason) and maybe so .. The theory is one of these hypotheses but have observations and expermints that prove its validity and there is not single experiment or one evidence that opposes it .. If there is one relaiable evidence appeared that opposed it, the theory is dropped and considered nothing .. We will accept the scientific theories that its validity was agreed on at their (the theories') times.. As for the scientific facts ,for example: "Things fall to the ground" .. It is something that is imposed on us and we cannot change it. I mean, scientific fact is the thing that hypotheses and theories are put to explain.
 * Third: As for religion ... we consider here that religion is the words said or the acts did by a man who calls himself that he is a prophet sent by God..these words include this man's holy/sacred book which he says is the words of God..and it includes the commands and rulings that the prophet commanded his followers With .. And therefore we have three men to whom the three major religions are attributed .. Judaism is attributed to “Moses” .. Christianity is attributed to “Jesus” .. and Islam is attributed to “Muhammad” .. but as for the words that the followers of the prophets said after the prophets death, It wont be taken into account in this discussion .. We will judge the religion just as the Prophet himself said .. We will not enter ourselves in the game of doubt to whether the follower of the Prophet sayings is according to words of the Prophet or its just numblings from himself that may be right or not.. as long as we follow the scientific method In discussion and research, there is nothing in science called "good thinking of  anyone" .. Every prophet is fully capable of fully expressing his own religion.

I looked at the audience and found the words had somewhat aroused their interest .. Adam was saying:

Depending on this rule, we brought the words of the three prophets and put it under investigation .. Investigating the validity of the attribution of these words to them .. to choose what we can adopt in our discussion .. As for the speeches and actions of the Prophet Muhammad, it has been proven in a purely scientific way that they are attributed to "Muhammad" with no doubt at all, how?this is what we will explain simply later .. As for the words attributed to the Prophet Jesus in Christianity or to the Prophet Moses in Judaism, there is no reliable scientific thing that proves (only scientifically) that its attributed to Jesus or to Moses .. The matter depends on the good thinking of the carriers .. We cannot enter and judge religion here, without being scientifically confident that the words they conveyed to us are truly the words of the prophet of that religion.

A bit of intercepting hum started to happen between some of the attendants, but "Adam" ignored this and looked at pictures formed on the hologram and continued saying:

Therefore, we will adopt the Islamic religion to represent the rest of the other religions in this debate, and we will not adopt the view or opinion of any other religion other than it .. The issue does not have any bias of any kind .. Rather, it was chosen by a purely scientific choice .. As we see before us on this hologram .. Scientifically .. Scientifically only .. early Muslims paid attention to the words of “Muhammad”, which reached almost perfection .. This big red point there represents the Prophet “Muhammad” .. And these small circular waves that come out from him are the sayings that the he speaks and the acts he do.. Look .. immediately The waves come out, a group of small blue dots flock to each other .. These are the First Generation of Followers (who we will point to as 'companions') of Muhammad .. They hear his words and see his acts now .. Then, as we see, the small dots are dispersed and small waves also come out of them .. They talk about what they heard from the words of Muhammad.

"Adam" Continued:

Now the picture is approaching one of the blue dots that represent one Companion .. As you see, a green dot representing one of the Second Generation of Followers (who we will point to as 'Followers') approached .. And the Follower is the one who saw the Companion but did not see the Prophet .. The green point took the words from the Companion and transferred it to purple point.. This purple point represents a man called (narrator) .. He is a good man from a generation after the generation of Followers .. This Narrator transfers it to another purple point represents another narrator .. Then to a next purple point and so on until the transfer reaches a large red point similar to the first point. This last red dot represents a man called "the Outlet" who is the man who (because earlier stages 《companions, followers,and narrators》 were noting and writing also, but not in one collective book). wrote the sayings which had moved through all this series.

he write this saying in a large book in which he collected hundreds of prophets sayings called "a prophet sayings book" or "Hadith Book" in short. .. In this book also he wrote the names of all the men of the series who transported this saying. and every saying of the Prophet that was able to reach him ..That is, he wrote every saying and wrote the names of all the series of narrators who transferrd this saying from the followers and then from the companion and then from the Prophet .. We have six big books of Hadith in which most sayings and actions of the Prophet Muhammad were collected .. But this all does not mean anything in relation to science.and still cannot be taken as scientifically valid..

as any member of this chain (Companions 》Followers》Narrator 1》Narrator 2....etc》Outlet) might have lied or edited or deformed any saying. And thus it is not reliable..but early Muslims really did do something very strange ... made science forced to bow and look at the words and consider it reliable words..

science considered it the most reliable words ever transferred in history .. Now let us look at the hologram carefully to understand what early Muslims have done.

The picture in the hologram approached one of the purple dots ... which are called "Narrator" .. So Adam continued:

And now look carefully .. This Narrator is one of the men who transferred the saying in the series .. Look at him and focus ....

Things resembling magnifying lenses popped up surrounding the purple dot representing the man. Adam pointed to it and said:

These magnifying hlasses represent people who have contemplated this man who transmits the sayings .. and they were monitoring him a close and accurate observation .. they monitored his morality and honesty throughout his life .. and say their judgment on him in the end .. to inform those who will come after them from next generations .. Like they say that this man had a virtue or they say a man was a liar .... not only this, but if it is proven from their observation of him that he is of high morals, they do not consider him as a reliable narrator of the Prophet's Sayings except when they test the strength of his memory, so they say, for example, this man have strong memory .. or this man is have weak memory.they do not accept him unless he passes the two tests .. To be of very high morals,and to have strong memory.

Adam pointed by his finger and said: Now, watch carefully .. If the man was a liar .. See what is happening .. .. The whole chain becomes distorted as you see and its bonds become wavy and shaky after it was straight .. Thus,this supposed saying of the prophet which transferred via this distorted chain is a FALSE Hadith and not considered reliable By Muslims .. even if a man in the chain lied only once. they had a extreme sensitivity against those who have lied (he talks bout Muslims at early islamic era).. they drop him directly from their accounts .. again we look at another series of Narrators.. and we approach again a purple point that represents one of The narrators of the Hadith .. and here he is surrounded by the maginfying glasses too as you see .. this man is on a very high morals and never lied but he have weak memory.. the same thing happens: the entire chain is disturbed .. and the hadith in this case is called a Weak Hadith .. and it is not considered reliable too .. so only With the hadith that all its Narrators are of a high degree of virtue and a high degree of memorizing power ..And the meaning of a high degree of virtue means that this narrator did not any do big bad deeds throughout their lives such as adultery, usury, drinking, backbiting, theft or injustice...

In short, early Muslims were not accepting those who narrates Prophet's sayings except when he is a good man with virtue ,honesty, well-known biography among all people in his community, and a strong memory

Adam continued: These magnifying glasses that rush to observe every point in the chain is what Muslim Theologists call "Lore of Men"..

And for the chains themselves, which represent the transmitting every saying or action of the Prophet until it ends to a book from the Outlet books, those chains are what they call "The Bond" ..and the saying itself (aka hadith) that the chain transmits is called "The Script" .. In short .. for every saying of the Prophet Muhammad, we have the names of those who transmitted it all and records about their biography, morals and the strength of their memory.. .. As we can see .. In this way, the Correct Authentic Hadiths are, scientifically,really attributed to the Prophet.

Adam continued:

As for the Quran, its transmission was in a much more powerful way than this .. Look with me to the hologram .. This red dot represents the Prophet .. Here he says the Quran Verses as you see .. and all the blue dots (the Companions) takes it from him and memorizes it .. Then each of these blue dots has come to meet at least ten of the green dots (the Followers), and those followers memorize and learn about the Quran verses from this Companion .. and each of the green dots that have memorized verses comes close to ten blue dots and the blue dots memorize and learn the Quran verses from them..

and each of those blue dots, who memorized and taught the Quran verses by the Followers, is called "a Memorizing Reader" (known as a Hafiz) and for each blue reader from them, comes to him ten other blue dots from whom they memorize the Quran .. and another ten comes to every ten learning and memorizing from them. .. every ten produces about a hundred Memorizing Readers .. and every hundred produces about 1000 Memorizing Readers .. and every thousand results in about 10,000 .. And so in every generation...until this day we find millions of Memorizing Readers.. And every Memorizing Reader in this huge chain is not considered an official Memorizing Reader and given a approval of that, unless he recites the whole Quran without a single mistake in any letter in front of his Mentor Memorizing Reader.. and if he makes a mistake, he will repeat it from the beginning ....this process was done also by his Mentor to his Mentor and loop goes on. each Memorizing reader cannot be counted as memorizing reader unless he repeats whole Quran to his mentor, and his mentor wasnt counted as memorizing reader until he repeated whole Quran to his mentor....etc until we reach the Companions then the Prophet himself..

entire generation memorizes the whole Quran from a entire generation, from a generation, from a generation, to the generation of “Muhammad.” This method is called Oral Frequency

Thousands of Memorizing Readers read the entire Quran without a mistake, learned it from thousands of Memorizing Reader in previous generation ....etc until the generation of the Prophet .. It is impossible in this way to have one mistake at all .. even in one letter .. the regular Hadith is transmitted from every man, to one man or two or three .. But for the Quran, It is transmitted by at least ten men learning from each man .. It is impossible that whole ten oversight or forget .. and all men in these chains, of course, are men whose names are known.

Finally, Adam said in a way of ending the conversation on this point:

As we see, this method of reporting on "Muhammad" is scientifical and completely prohibits any kind of good thinking of anyone and completely prevents any kind of doubts about the correctness of the transmitted sayings .. This was not found in Christianity or in Judaism .. Rather, there is no known Chains for these 2 religions. And so we are scientifically ... only scientifically .. We will take the words that Muhammad says about God and we will consider it as the religious speech that will face science and philosophy in our debate..as it was proven its already reaching to the prophet unlike the 2 other religions that we dont know any chain of them... And as we know, the man who will represent religion today is "the blessed" and he is one of the Memeorizing Readers of The Quran have a wide knowledge about The Hadiths.

Then Adam turned to us and said: Sirs .. Do you have any comments or changes to what i mentioned so far?

Hey .. he is talking to you and me .. What do you think? As for science, they do not accept hypotheses because they are not proven .. As for religion, they do not accept any word in it unless it is proven to be said by a prophet .. There is no scientifically proven words attributed to a prophet except the words of the Prophet “Muhammad” .. His Quran and hadith .. They don't accept any False or Weak hadith..only the Correct Authentic Hadiths.. So we have performed a complete process of "filtering" everything that is not proven, whether in science or in religion ... and what remains after filtering is what will be discussed here to see how it will contradict and how it will agree .. In my opinion, they have established strong and very very logical rules before the start of this discussion .. I got excited, my friend! .. So I said to Adam:

Continue.. you made us excited.

Adam kept a little silent as if he was preparing to start something big and then said:

I will now mention the method of discussion and its mechanisms .. When I ask any question, one of the seats will light up .. This means that the one sitting on this seat must stand and talk about what summarizes his ideas and researches in the answer to this question .. In each question we will make the philosophers speak first .. Then the experimental scientists .. because the words of philosophers is considered a mental sport ..It makes our minds move from their slumber ...so people become prepared to receive the opinion of science .. And the lighting of the seats, whether for philosophy or scientists, will be historically arranged .. That is, the seat that will illuminate first will be the seat of the man who gave the first opinion on this matter .. Then the seat of another man will be lit He is the second to mention his opinion on it and so ... Then the opinion of "The Blessed" will be the last opinion that will be said after all these views all to tell us the opinion of religion .. And remember during the lighting of the seats that the green light means that this person is a philosopher .. and the red light means that this person Experimental scientist.

Everyone was silent and followed with interest .. Adam said:

We will start now .. And we will ask the first question .. Is this universe that we all live in, is a universe that has existed in this condition since eternity? Or does it have a start? And if it had a beginning, when? and who started it? Is it God or something else?

Suddenly, Aristotle’s seat was lit with green light .. He is a man with a short white beard and a short white hair descending on his forehead ... Aristotle stood up and said:

The universe in which we live is not the eternal .. This is inaccurate speech .. Rather, the substance from which the universe was made is the eternal .. This substance I called "Chaos (not by its meaning as "mess"..but Chaos as a scientific term)" .. This Chaos has always been in existence since eternity .. God is also existing since eternity .. But this Chaos has an important characteristic .. It is a characteristic of the admiration of God .. This admiration made it move automatically from itself to make this universe alone without interference from God.

Adam asked him intently: So you believe in the existence of God?

Aristotle said directly: Yes, of course .. I completely remove any deficiency from God with this talking .. We said that if the universe did not exist then God suddenly created it .. this means that God was not able to create and then a time came upon him and he was able to create .. He created the universe. This is not permissible for God .. So the solution to this dilemma is that the Chaos existed from eternity, just like God .. And God did not create it and did not create the universe .. Rather, it was it who moved to make this universe an expression of its admiration for God .. And God only role was raising its admiration for him, and him raising it's admiration not intended from him, but this is a nature in him and it.

Here, a chair was lit with a green light .. The doctor, the philosopher "Avicenna", a sharp-faced man with a sharp beard in a white turban, looked at "Aristotle" with admiration and said:

I stayed too long reading "Aristotle" books and trying to understand them until I memorized them .. In the end I became aware of the light and intelligence in them .. Muslims did not like philosophy and see it as a disbelief at first glance .. But I found that Islamic thought is able to absorb it .. and..

Adam interrupted it: You are not allowed to do this personal digression .. Briefly state your opinion, sir.

Avecenna was a little embarrassed, but said: Well ... excuses ... anyways, the universe is really something that has existed with God from eternity ... just as the light has been with the sun since the sun was found .. and heat has been with the fire since the fire was found .. and I will explain why .. because when we say that God is the Creator, We inevitably mean that creation is an attribute that has existed in God since eternity .. If we accept after that he created the universe at a certain time as most Muslims imagine .. we will fall into trouble .. Come to think of God before he created the universe .. Would we have been able To call him a creator at that time? Of course not .. because he did not create the universe yet .. How can we not call him a creator at that time and it is assumed that creation is an eternal trait in him? So the way out of this dilemma is to believe that the universe is eternal with God .. but it is God who created it .. How is this? Simply put, the word “creation” here does not mean creation in the traditional sense .. Rather, it means that the universe came from God since eternity ... as we say that the sun created a light .. or that fire created heat.

Then, by the green light, a chair of man with a long beard and a turban was lit .. This was “Abu Hamid Al-Ghazali” .. One of the most important Muslim scholars and thinkers of that era and he said:

Avecenna (or Ibn Senna in arabic) has forgotten a very important attribute of God, and if he had remembered it, his dilemma would have been solved .. He attributed to God the attribute of Creation .. But he forgot the attribute of Will .. Yes God is a creator since eternity .. But he has a Will since eternity too .. This Will, made him create the universe at a certain time, the time he wanted to create it, so the issue was resolved.

Then another green light lit up in another place .. This was "Ibn Rushd" .. one of the Muslim philosophers in Andalusia .. Ibn Rushd said:

The concept of "Avecenna" is invalid .. its like if he makes God creator forcefully.. not by his choice and will ... as if the sun emits light forcefully and not by its choice .. Also the response of "Al-Ghazali" was invalid .. He says that God chose by his will to create the universe in a certain time .. this is illogical .. before God created the universe .. God alone lived since eternity .. and eternity means an infinite time in the past .. If you divide this infinite time before the universe was created into times .. you will find that all these times are Identical .. There is no difference between a time of them and a time .. There is no advantage for a time of them over a time .. All are identical times in the endless flow of time .. Why did God's eternal will choose to create the universe at a certain time of them without another? What would have most likely been for the God to create the universe at this time instead of another time that is exactly the same? Did any external cause made God choose this choice? This is not true because nothing affects God and his choices.

Adam quietly said to him: You invalidated the words of both two but did not mention the solution to us from your point of view?

Ibn Rushd told him: They have proven God had the attribute of creation since eternity .. but each of them conceived a wrong perception .. The correct thing is that the universe is eternal because the attribute of creation in God is eternal .. And here I mean the true creation by God’s will .. not 'forcefully' as Avecenna claims .. I also do not mean that he created universe at a certain time despite having an eternal will, as Al-Ghazali says. This is not true .. Rather, I mean that God creates the universe at every moment from time immemorial until now .. That is why the universe is eternal .. If God is absent from the universe for a second, The whole universe would collapse an eye's blink.

Then a green light was lit on the chair of a man with a blue turban, a medium beard, and authentic Arab features .. This was Ibn Taymiyyah, one of the very great Muslim scholars. Ibn Taymiyyah said:

“Ibn Rushd” has succeeded in invalidating the words of "Avecenna" and "Ghazali" with good arguments and i congratulate him on this, but he has brought us back to the idea of ​​“Aristotle” that the universe is eternal with God .. the only difference is that he says that God created him on his will, and creates it every second ... but what Ibn Rushd done is invalidiating what is originally invalid..

The truth is closest to the truth among them was "Al Ghazali" when he suggested the idea of ​​Will, but his mistake was that he imagined that God created the universe with it (Will) at a certain time .. This is invalid and it was easy for "Ibn Rushd" to nullify it because the times before the creation of the universe are all identical ..

Adam said to him thinking: So can you tell us what you see as a solution to this problem?

Ibn Taymiyyah said: The solution is simple .. God is Creator since eternity Yes .. But there is no such thing called universe that has existed from eternity .. So you will say what about God before he created the universe? I will tell you: who told you that the universe is the first creation?? . This has not been proven in the Quran or Hadiths .. Rather, it has been proven that this universe is ONE of God’s creations .. Before the universe were other things God created... You imagine that the universe is the first creation because it is the thing around you and you live in it .. But this is not true .. Rather, God created other creatures before it, and other creatures before those, until we reach the first creature .. Before the first creature, God was alone and there wasnt anything existing .. but was and still having attribute of the will .. But not the will that Al-Ghazali understood .. Rather, the will that God said about it in the Quran: "Verily, His command,when intends a thing, only what he says to it is 'Be', and it exists"

I mean, if he wants something, then this thing will exist straight away without delay until a certain time, unlike what was assumed by “Al-Ghazali.”.. like when i say, "I broke that thing"..thats something happens immediately ..

Adam said to him: Does this mean that there is no plan for God? He only does when he wills? Is it not planned for things that will happen in the future in certain times to happen, for example?

Ibn Taymiyyah said: No. of course, there is a plan .. It does not contradict with direct existence commands .. The plan only cares about the events that will happen and arrange them .. As for how it will happen, some of them are creatures that God creates by "Be" like the creation of Adam (first human,not the discussion host).. and some of them are destinies that God made, such as getting Adam out from Paradise.. All this is written in the plan.

Adam asked him: Who wrote this plan? Is it God who wrote it?

Ibn Taymiyyah said: its known via Quran and Hadiths that God created Pen of Destiny,..Then he said to the pen, write what is present until the Day of Resurrection .. So the pen wrote everything that will be from events until the Day of Resurrection .. The pen wrote the whole plan .. but executing these plans is caused by God’s will to create this or that thing, then after He creates this or that thing....then this or that destiny happens, all according to the plan BUT with God's will.

Ibn Taymiyya became silent a little and then said: They mistakely understand eternity .. The true eternity is not the eternity of creations .. Rather the eternity of events .. And the events are eternal because God’s actions are what they caused by .. God does this or that since eternity .. His actions are eternal because he is eternal .. So all their mathematical and non-mathematical evidence about existence of eternity is all valid proof .. but it does not mean the eternity of creations, but the eternity of events ..etrenity of creations such as universe is a delusion..if we said who created humans the answer would be God..but if we said who created God, thats not a valid question.. because you shouldn't search for an explanation of the explanation .. If you keep looking for an explanation of the explaination and then an explanation for that explaination..etc to infinity, you will never reach an explaination at all .. The meaning of the word eternity, that things if we believed their existence would mean that there would be none of these Things .. Because their causes go on for infinity, there will be no reason for them .. Thus they will not exist .. There must be an explaination that has no explanation .. This explaination that have no explaination is God.

Adam said: now we reach the end of the philosophers talk regarding the eternity matter .. And everyone who came after those and spoke about this matter restored these same dilemmas and presented nothing new.

Here a yellow light flashed sporadically in the middle of the seats .. Everyone looked with amazement at the seat .. This was not among the colors agreed upon .. Even the owner of the chair seemed confused not knowing whether he stands or is this a technical malfunction .. I do not think that in such a world there are Technical malfunctions .. I heard the voice of "Adam" saying:

Excuse me .. I forgot to tell you that the yellow light means that whoever rises is a writer .. neither a philosopher nor a scientist .. excuse again about this omission .. Now the famous writer and poet Edgar Allan Poe stands.

"Edgar" stood somewhat awkward ... This is the man who is considered the spiritual father of the literature of horror ... a man with very distinctive features and a black suit that gives a sense of depression rather than elegance ... Poe said:

Excuse me, I do not understand my role exactly in this wonderful community .. All that I said was dependent on my imagination alone .. As for the issue of this eternal universe, I once imagined an imagination in one of my poems called “Eureka” .. I said a text that God has created by his will something very small It is like a small particle .. Then this small particle exploded, to which all the particles of this universe came out from us. When these particles came out, they began to gravitate to each other, forming groups called galaxies. Then, these galaxies separated from each other due to the first explosion and still diverge until now. Then after a while, the universe will collapse and return to that small thing that it was at first time.

Here a red light flared up at one of the chairs .. And he stood according to him, a man who is one the most influental figures in the history of experimental science .. He stood with his famous revolutionary hair and his brightly brilliant view .. This was "Albert Einstein" .. who said with his distinguished voice:

these philosophical debates are amazing, which I note they are being more corrected and corrected with every new one standing .. also I was amazed by the poet Poe’s words .. I don’t know how he could imagine the Big Bang theory and the expansion of the universe and we have stayed for decades until we knew a logical scenario for it .. While he did this before us Far too much, based solely on his imagination .. As for your words about the eternity of the universe, this reminds me of the biggest mistake I made in my life as a scientist .. Before I talk about my mistake I would like to say that this matter has taken us as experimental scientists a great effort for many years as long as it took from philosophers until we say a firm opinion .. We, as experimental scientists, had a famous scientific struggle between us on this point .. Is there a beginning for the universe or is it eternal? We have settled this long debate that has tired us for years and years .. We finally settled it scientifically .. And this has a story.

"Einstein" kept a little quiet, then continued: One day I came up with general relativity equations called field equations, I could not believe what these equations say to me .. they were telling me that this universe is not as static as everyone imagines .. this universe is either expanding or either shrinking ... She was telling me that there is A gravitational force between all objects is the force of gravity, and there is no other force opposing it.

If the equation is true, I will believe that the static universe in which I believe must collapse in itself by this attractive force that attracts all its contents to each other .. Or perhaps the solution is that the universe is expanding from the beginning on the run from this gravitational power .. But what will make it expand originally? I did not know the answer to the question .. That is why I occupied the equations with a trick .. I added a imaginary value to the equation called “the cosmological constant” that equals this force of gravitation exactly .. I did this so i keep my first primitive perception true .. which is that the universe is static ... not expanding and not shrinking.

"Einstein" kept silent for short while and and then said:

Years later, one of the talented Russian mathematicians, Alexander Friedman, came to me and proved to me by mathematics that my equations after removing the imaginary cosmological constant from them clearly say that this universe is expanding and not shrinking, but I have not given attention to his words..and years later another man came from Belgium who is a scientist and monk at the same time .. His name was "George Lumeter" and he put in front of me the same words that the Russian alexander told me .. I told him that his talk is old and I heard it before and it is nonsense .. My reaction shocked him when he knew that there were people who thought about the same words of him and confirmed it before him.

Einstein looked at one side and raised his hand; saluting George Lumeter, who was between the attendants and answered the greeting .. "Einstein" continued looking at the monk with gratitude:

The monk did not give up after my words, and he told me about his new theory that this universe was a small point and then exploded .. The fragments expanded from the explosion and all these celestial bodies were formed and are still expanding until today .. The same words that told to us a little while ago by that poet "Poe" .. my mere refusal to consider the words of that monk gave him a lack of credibility almost everywhere .. But he continued for years after that while he was trying to persuade people with his theory .. He actually succeeded so that the scientists were divided into two groups ... one team believes in my words and the other team believes in the monk's words .. and what solved the problem was the discovery of my astronomer friend, Hubble. It is better to let him speak on this point.

A red light illuminated next to "Einstein" .. This was the American astronomer "Hubble", which is famous for telescope that carries his name .. Hubble said:

After discovering via my famous telescope for the first time, there were galaxies other than ours .. I knew that these galaxies were sending me a message .. They wanted to tell me something important .. At first I did not notice .. But suddenly I understood .. i understood their message to me .. Simply known That when you analyze a normal light into a spectrum, you find that this spectrum has a certain color depending on the wave length of light .. the spectrum may be blue, green, yellow, or other colors .. light that have a greater wave length appears when analyzed as a red spectrum .. and the light that have a shorter wavelength appears when analyzed as a blue spectrum.

Pictures on the hologram appeared, explaining the words "Hubble" said with pictures. He continued:

When I analyzed the light that comes from other galaxies .. I found that its spectrum is red .. And with time it tends to be more red .. This indicated to me that the light that comes to us from galaxies, have its wave length increases with time .. This only had one meaning: The star that emits that light is, in fact, moving away from us .. The further away it is from us, its wave length increases, and so its spectrum appears more red. This observation was true from all directions .. The experiment was conducted on about 40 galaxies around us .. and every time I get the same results .. then I understood the message that the stars told me ... the message that told me that all these stars and galaxies around us are in fact moving away from us.

Hubble referred to Einstein and continued: I quickly called my friend "Einstein" to visit me in my observatory and show him my experiences .. I told him that the monk was right in every word he said .. this universe is really expanding .. and because “Einstein” is a real man of science .. he admitted that this story of the virtual cosmological constant was the biggest mistake he made in his life..and he admitted that this universe was really expanding..and that it was a small thing and then started expanding and expanding until now it did not stop expanding..this was the first watch supporting the Big Bang theory .. which was still hypothesis back at this time.

A red light illuminated when a Russian man wearing glasses and combing his hair to the right side stood up... This is the Russian physicist "George Jamov" who said kinda nervously:

I did not like what is happening in the scientific community .. The Big Bang hypothesis did not get very popular even after the observations of "Hubble" .. Because on the other hand, there was another hypothesis. and it was largely supported by the media .. "The steady state theory" that Fred Hoyle came by, who was an expert in publicizing his idea everywhere .. It is a hypothesis that this great universe has existed from eternity as it is and its elements constantly renew themselves from eternity..and all of them form continously in the stars due to the very high star temperature that allows all elements of the periodic table to form each other one after another.

"Jamov" searched for Hoyle among the attendants ike if he wanted to blame him .. Then he said:

"Hoyle" was making fun of the Big Bang hypothesis all the time ... provocatively .. but he did not know that his sarcasm served the big bang great service .. I remember in that interview with him on the radio when he laughed at the explosion hypothesis and said that the universe is not a dancing girl coming out of The party cake like "Big Bang" .. It was a very funny joke that time for people..That jokke made the name Big Bang stick to the hypothesis .. And its name became the Big Bang hypothesis .. But in my opinion; the real great service that he provided to the it was during his mockery of the hypothesis once when he said: "If there was an explosion that actually occurred, then let them search for the remnats of that explosion." .. His speech motivated me to think in the idea that there must really be remnats .. And I said to myself that as long as the explosion occurred at a very, very high temperature in the past there must be, today after millions of years, remnats of a measurable radiation from the explosion.

"Jamov" kept silent and then said: Depending on my calculations alone, I proved that this radiation, if it really exists now, will have an absolute temperature of 3 degrees .. In my days there was no modern way in which we could measure this radiation that I assumed .. Therefore, all of my words did not get very popular and " Hoyle " remained on top with his media-supported hypothesis.

Two red lights lit up somewhere .. Two German men, “Arno Benzias” and “Robert Wilson” .. Wilson said:

We had nothing to do with astronomy or physics, but we were researchers working in a laboratory for a telephones company .. We were doing a wireless experiment .. Our company built giant antenna for the experiment a to communicate with one of the first satellites .. this experiment ,without intention from us, proven the Big Bang happened and because of that we got the Nobel Prize in Physics ... the idea is simply that we did not look at space with a normal telescope, but rather we looked at it with that giant antenna that we called the radio telescope .. When we looked at it, we found that there was a faint, disturbing sound coming from everywhere in the universe around us. Wherever we send the radio a telescope, we get the same disturbing sound ... a sound that comes in the form of dim microwave waves everywhere ..

everyone who used the radio telescope before us did not pay attention to this sound but we felt that this is an important thing .. Our understanding opened that this sound does not come from a satellite .. It does not come from anything tangible .. This sound comes from the universe itself.

Benzias said: When we consulted our astronomical friends on this matter, they jumped with joy because they understood the meaning of our discovery .. It became clear to them that we accidentally discovered the remnants of the radiation that "Jamov" had been talking about for twenty years ... These faint waves recorded by our device in the form of a disturbing sound were in fact issued by The old photons left behind by the Big Bang explosion that spread everywhere in space after the explosion .. We called it the cosmic background radiation .. The “Jamov” hypothesis was saying that these photons began to diminish over time and its energy decrease little by little and he said that these faint photons must have temperature now, after all these years, 3 absolute degrees .... all of these were assumptions from "Jamov".

Looking back at Jamov, Wilson said: We detected these dim waves and we were able to measure their temperature to find its 2.7 absolute degrees .. almost a quarter of a degree lower than the words of "Jamov" .. This was the strongest experimental observation that proved the big bang hypothesis and turned it into a theory and made it defeat all other hypotheses competing with it ... and for this We were given the Nobel Prize .. But there was a difficult problem that stood before the theory .. A problem in this dim radiation itself .. This radiation was the same temperature any where all through it .. This does not agree with the nature of universe which is hot in places and cold in other places ... We did not understand at the time why this radiation paints a different picture of the universe than it is. Perhaps it is not radiation remaining from the explosion of the universe in any case .. Maybe it was radiation coming from nearby stars .. Scientists returned and measured the temperature of the radiation by all available means at the time, so it assured them every time that its temperature is always the same .. not different .. these waves does not express the entire universe ..these waves are false..this was the handicap that threatened of the complete fall of the theory..and general frustration prevailed among scientists.

Smiling, "Benzias said," Then the surprise came when NASA sent a sophisticated spacecraft named COBE specifically to measure the temperature of these remaining faint waves from the Big Bang closely .. Perhaps it finds any variety in the temperature in places from places and saves the theory from falling .. And the surprise .. the vehicle revealed actually there is a difference in temperature in places from other places .. Not only that .. but I was able to draw a thermal map of the entire universe based on the difference of tempreature of the beams/waves .. a map that shows the locations of galaxies and stars very accurately .. We were right from the start. These waves is the most accurate object that expresses the universe. Indeed, these waves are the map of the entire universe.

Wilson said: Then came the final proof of the theory .. came when it was discovered that the density of this universe is homogeneous in all its parts .. If you look to the right side of universe.. or to the left side from it that was supposed to be very far from right side and dont have a relation with it, you will find the same density .. Scientists understood the meaning of this .. meaning that this right point .. and that left point away from it .. were long ago together in the same circumstances .. conditions that pushed this point to the right and that to the left .. one conditions .. the same words Big Bang said, which says that all the places of the universe were once together in one point.. one temperature and one density and then rushed with one speed in all directions .. That is why we find the density of the universe identical everywhere .. This was the greatest victory for the theory and thus finally was formally adopted as a scientifically validate theory.

Adam said to him:

Do I understand from your words that science has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the universe has a beginning? And that this beginning is what you refer to as the Big Bang?

Benzias said: Of course ... science has proven this theory beyond doubt ... with the observations that we mentioned today and with hundreds of other observations.

Einstein interfered, saying: I would like to add a simple scientific proof that our universe is impossible to be eternal .... the radioactive elements in the universe ... If the universe was eternal, these elements would be extinguished before long ages ... but the fact that they are still radioactive until now ... meaninh when it was first formed, it had its full radiant energy ... and its energy was gradually lost over years, and today what remains is shining ahead of us.

Adam said: So, we can consider big bang a theory proven by the viewz and there are no expermints that oppose it?

"Benreas" said to him confidently: Exactly ...as The rest of the hypotheses didnt have watches/expermints to prove them... but in the end the big bang theory could not yet tell us the truth about the moment of zero .. the moment before the explosion .. we did not know what was existing before the explosion .. We did not know why the explosion occurred .. For this purpose, scientists built a large laboratory in Switzerland called "CERN" whose mission, as they claim, is to simulate the same conditions of Big Bang so that they can understand the first moment and before.

Adam said: So science has said its word that the universe has a beginning ... This agreed with the view of philosophers through time, who in turn concluded that the universe is not eternal ... but its creator is eternal ... but what about the opinion of religion in this matter?

Here, excuse me, the honorable scientific community .. before religion speak of anything .. Everyone must rest a little ... This is necessary for our minds to rest ... Adam pointed to the guards so they closed the hologram..and we saw Scorpion pointing to us to follow him to rest and chat for a bit...